best. Not if he willingly got reeducated. The Iron Bull was raised in the schools of Par Vollen by the tamassrans, though he was called Ashkaari, \"one who thinks\", at the time. dorian I'm wondering if it wasn't a suicide of some kind on his part? So he's a walking dead already. Even if you're romancing him at the time... Or if you never did his personal quest. Oh shit. 14 Comments. I loved Vivienne's reaction to it all: "Calling me ma'am all this time, clever boy". That pun was great though. hide. On the 2nd to last mission in Trespasser, the Qunari will try to prevent you from releasing their dragon to conquer the south and Iron Bull might just straight up betray you. He's been willingly reeducated before. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. krem the one where at the end u choice if the Chargers live or die. share. Iron Bull's revealed betrayal won't change that though so now I'm be ok not even recruiting him anymore as I can't stand how f***ing annoying BioWare made Krem.-The biggest oxymoron ever is an open-minded liberal. at my TV for a good half hour before I unpaused. At least I hope not. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. What happens in Trespasser DLC is two years after the Demands of the Qun. Not a friend. I was referring more to the approval levels. All the romance and approval from him was then just part of his job as an espionage agent -- his real name was "Liar" anyway. Share your thoughts, experiences and the tales behind the art. The Iron Bull tried to kill me with a goddamn pun. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. So yeah, if he's Ben Hassrath, he values his duty above all else. Hope Bioware remembers choices like this. NO. romance inquisitor As for doing it anyway if his quest wasn't done, well you're only an employer to him at that point. Upload stories, poems, character descriptions & more. What does bas mean? But he wasen't. (Even if you don’t take him with you, he’ll show up later with the rest of the Qunari and try to kill you).This can be prevented.From the research I’ve done, it’s based on Approval ratings and what happened with Bull’s personal quest.Not doing Bull’s personal quest- Bull always betrays you.Letting Krem and the Chargers die- Bull always betrays you.Making sure Krem and the Chargers live- Dependent on Approval levels; If high enough, Bull will stay in the party (Unconfirmed).Note that being in a romance but letting the Chargers die will still result in Iron Bull betraying you. But Ashkaari sometimes got into trouble himself. He still betrays you if you haven't done his quest (the chargers are still alive and he's still part of the Qun). Continue browsing in r/dragonage. Maybe the order to betray and kill his friends killed his soul. Atonement by Toni Romero Powered by Tumblr / Archives / Feed. the iron bull any information would be helpful. Edit: Just went around reading other people's posts on the subject and read a pretty interesting one that stated he's following the Inquisitor's example. That, and maybe he resubmitted himself to reeducation, which would also explain why he felt nothing. On one occasion, after he'd eaten all the meat on hi… spoilers Cole said he felt nothing from him because he had no feeling at all, probably even when he was dying. NO." Sacrificing what you love for duty. mass effect User Info: DjHotness. dragon age Cole says it's not even painful for him to betray you, My thought was "oh my god has he been calling me 'bas' the whole time and we've just thought he was using a term of endearment? Thats how I interpret it, he always seemed a bit sadder when his squad died. 98% Upvoted. I had such a heart-stopping moment there. I yelled "What the fuck man! He was big and strong for his age and liked to act as a secondary caregiver for his fellow children, reporting to the tamassrans when someone wasn't feeling well or was about to cause trouble. ", I really don't think he was though. report. This may be the reason, why Cole felt nothing from him. NO. Experiment with DeviantArt’s own digital drawing tools. Sell custom creations to people who love your style. WHY!!!!!!!!! What the fuck!" (I’ve heard of a work around or alternate solution where you can prevent this with a romance option, but I haven’t found it yet, so for now, still unconfirmed).As for the action itself, I give kudos to Bioware and Patrick Weekes for doing this. I heard a rumor that even if you saved the Chargers, if you have low approval, Iron Bull will still betray you. NO. 4K Views. 95 comments. cuz i reallly want the staff from the personal quest. It gives Bull a sense of agency, it affects gameplay directly and it changes the ending. share. james vega A community of Dragon Age fans, noobs, and … YOU WERE THE GOOD ONE!!!!!! EDIT: Now that I think about it, I wonder if it's mostly just Bull's rage that the chargers were sacrificed as to why he betrayed you, rather than the Qun fucking with his head. I wonder how it will turn out if you never even recruited him. Upload your creations for people to see, favourite and share. Needed a mage and my Sera. save hide report. I wasn't really sad when that happened, just really annoyed because I've sacrificed the chargers on a few characters. Bull is simply doing it again for the Qun. NO. Now, I wanna see how EVERY companion reacts Waits for the inevitable YouTube compilation. I;ve played up to the part where im doing the iron bull personal quest thingy. Okay, I'll be honest; this hurt me *way* more than what happened with Solas. r/dragonage. Sort by. I just figured he picked up an accent or something. dragon age inquisition DjHotness 4 years ago #4. A community of Dragon Age fans, noobs, and ogres. At least this way, he can die by the hands of people who he respects and make them think he doesn't care by calling them "bas." I wouldn't be surprised if Viv WASN'T surprised at his betrayal - She's Orlesian, after all. I never did it on the save game I used for my first trespassing, and he turned on me. Iron Bull Betrayal - Trespasser DLC *Spoilers* By Burnouts3s3 Watch. He doesn't have the Chargers and, even if he is in a romance with Inquisitor or Dorian, he'd probably just get reeducated to forget them later. Making sure Krem and the Chargers live- Dependent on Approval levels; If high enough, Bull will stay in the party (Unconfirmed). The Iron Bull tried to kill me with a goddamn pun. I didn't even have him with me in my party ONCE when I was playing through the DLC. Hmmm, but he was too long away. ". This hurt me so much, I really wasn't expecting it. On the 2nd to last mission in Trespasser, the Qunari will try to prevent you from releasing their dragon to conquer the south and Iron Bull might just straight up betray you. NOOOOOOOOO. Is that if you choose the alliance with the Qunari over the chargers? qunari Well, was there enough time to do that? bioware Okay, I’ll be honest; this hurt me *way* more than what happened with Solas. I didn't even bring him in the final fight. When IB turns on me in the qunari stronghold. It's a longer process to brainwash people like Bull and he didn't look like he got Quamek? A true Qunari who thinks like Tal Vashoth. i wanted to know if the new dlc has any serious ramifications for either choice. No, really, he can be in your party and you’ll have to kill him and a bunch of other Qunari and still deal with a dragon afterwards with only your Inquisitor and 2 party members. (Trespasser spoilers) When in the Daavarad, I reached the Iron Bull betrayal, my combat matched the drama like a movie! Yep. I don't think that this would be a three-day-mattter (or one week). As for Cole saying that he felt nothing; Ben-hassrath, remember? Iron Bull Betrayal - Trespasser DLC *Spoilers* Okay, I’ll be honest; this hurt me *way* more than what happened with Solas. patrick weekes, Iron Bull Betrayal - Trespasser DLC *Spoilers*. TBH Trespasser is better with Tal-Vashoth The Iron Bull. Anyone got a link to this scene? The Inquisitor thought it best to kill the Chargers for the alliance. dragon age 2 I'm now playing second round with him as Tal-Vashoth and so far it's pretty interesting. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I yelled "NO. He wished to, yes. dragon age origins da2 :(. iron bull